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Fans of the Netflix Marvel shows have had an incredibly exciting few weeks. First, Charlie Cox returned as Matt Murdock for a cameo in Spider-Man: No Way Home, finally confirming that Daredevil exists in the MCU. Then, Vincent D'Onofrio's terrifying Kingpin made a shocking appearance in the Hawkeye season finale.
This is, of course, a huge deal. While they were originally conceived as part of the MCU, the Netflix shows never really properly referenced the movies and were often considered part of their own universe. Depending on who you ask at Marvel, that's actually exactly what they were.
Naturally, the return of Daredevil and Kingpin raises an interesting question: Are these the exact same characters from the Netflix shows, or are we pretending that three seasons of Daredevil just didn't happen?
It's worth noting that on Netflix, Kingpin once removed a man's head from his body using a car door. We can't imagine that's something that'll be referenced on Disney Plus. So you'd be forgiven for assuming that not every bloody, brutal thing that happened to Daredevil and Kingpin on Netflix will have officially happened to these slightly newer MCU versions of the characters.
While we don't yet have a definitive answer, D'Onofrio believes that his Kingpin is exactly the same man, and that the Netflix shows are MCU canon.
"They’re trying their best to keep Daredevil as part of the canon," D’Onofrio told GamesRadar. "Hawkeye is part of the canon of what we did at Daredevil.
"It’s not always going to be 100 per cent. There’s a lot of connecting the dots which Marvel is really good at. There’s certain things we can and can’t [do], especially if we make changes to his strength like we have. I’m approaching it as if it’s after the Blip, everybody’s returned, and it’s the same emotionally and character-wise. I play him exactly the way he was in Daredevil."
As long as Daredevil season three doesn't get retconned, that's kind of all I care about.